You might be referring to terry of Live Oak, Jeffery Commanore and his GF and base player Cynthia. Jeff is a Chiropractor, who was briefly one of the Gourd owners. Dont know what became of Terry. Cynthia who was Jeffs GF and base player was around the Bay Area for several years after the Gourd closed and Jeff left. Lost touch years ago. What about Jay Kellem? Havnt heardmof him for years. Hemwoukd be very old today.