I think the hard left posting here like to deny reality:

Quotes from Federalists and Pro-Integrationists:
Jean-Claude Juncker - President of the European Commission quotes:

    "When it becomes serious you have to lie."

    "We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided we continue step by step until there is no turning back."

    "I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious, I am for secret, dark debates."

    "Britain is different. Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?"

    "There is a single legal personality for the EU, the primacy of European law."

    "If it's a 'Yes,' we will say "On we go!" and if it's a 'No' we will say "We continue!">/I>

Viviane Reding - Vice President of the European Commission

    "Strengthening Europe's legitimacy can be best done by turning our Union into a United States of Europe. As in the U.S., we need a two-chamber system for the United States of Europe. A strong political Union with a strong government (the Commission) and two Chambers - the European Parliament and a 'Senate' of Member States."

    "There will be no repatriation of EU powers. It is not our problem, it is not us making the demands. You are either ‘in’ or ‘out’."

    "At Maastricht people wanted to have us believe that we could irreversibly establish a monetary union and a new world currency without creating a United States of Europe at the same time. That was a mistake, and now that mistake needs to be corrected"

    "We must now embark on the road to a United States of Europe."

    “British sovereignty is mainly in their head because they've signed the EU treaty and most business is in Europe.”

    "The most powerful parliament in Europe is the European Parliament. Seventy per cent of laws in this country are co-decided there.”

    "When people ask politicians today “What will become of Europe?” or “Where is European integration heading?”, we usually give an evasive answer. “We don’t want a super state” that is generally the first thing we say. I must admit that I have in the past often resorted to this kind of thing myself.

    "On the basis of a report by the Presidents of the EU institutions, the European Council is currently working on four new stages of integration: a European banking union with central European bank supervision; a European fiscal union with stricter control mechanisms over national budgets and the development of our own European financing capacity; a European economic union, involving a greater degree of joint decision-making on economic, tax, and social policy and finally a political union."

Jose Manuel Barroso - Former President of the European Commission and Former Prime Minister of Portugal

    "The time for piecemeal solutions is over. We need to set our minds on global solutions. A greater ambition for Europe. Today we are at a turning point in our history. A moments when, if we do not integrate further, we risk fragmentation."

    "For the euro area to be credible – and this not only the message of the federalists, this is the message of the markets – we need a truly Community approach. We need to really integrate the euro area."

    "For all of this to work, we need more than ever the independent authority of the Commission, to propose and assess the actions that the Member States should take. Governments, let's be frank, cannot do this by themselves. Nor can this be done by negotiations between governments."

    "We should remember that our Europe is a Europe of citizens. As citizens, we all gain through Europe. We gain a European identity and citizenship apart from our national citizenship."

    "We must also be realistic and recognise that, if Europe is to exert its influence fully, if Europe really wants to be a power, we must strengthen the Common Foreign and Security Policy. It must be credible. It must be based on a common security and defence dimension if we are really to count in the world."

    "Certain forms of intergovernmentalism could be the death of the united Europe we wish for."
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Quotes from Federalists and Pro-Integrationists

Jean-Claude Juncker - President of the European Commission

    "When it becomes serious you have to lie."

    "We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided we continue step by step until there is no turning back."

    "I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious, I am for secret, dark debates."

    "Britain is different. Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?"

    "There is a single legal personality for the EU, the primacy of European law."

    "If it's a 'Yes,' we will say "On we go!" and if it's a 'No' we will say "We continue!"

    “You would not create a European army to use it immediately”

Viviane Reding - Vice President of the European Commission

    "Strengthening Europe's legitimacy can be best done by turning our Union into a United States of Europe. As in the U.S., we need a two-chamber system for the United States of Europe. A strong political Union with a strong government (the Commission) and two Chambers - the European Parliament and a 'Senate' of Member States."

    "There will be no repatriation of EU powers. It is not our problem, it is not us making the demands. You are either ‘in’ or ‘out’."

    "At Maastricht people wanted to have us believe that we could irreversibly establish a monetary union and a new world currency without creating a United States of Europe at the same time. That was a mistake, and now that mistake needs to be corrected"

    "We must now embark on the road to a United States of Europe."

    “British sovereignty is mainly in their head because they've signed the EU treaty and most business is in Europe.”

    "The most powerful parliament in Europe is the European Parliament. Seventy per cent of laws in this country are co-decided there.”

    "When people ask politicians today “What will become of Europe?” or “Where is European integration heading?”, we usually give an evasive answer. “We don’t want a super state” that is generally the first thing we say. I must admit that I have in the past often resorted to this kind of thing myself.

    "On the basis of a report by the Presidents of the EU institutions, the European Council is currently working on four new stages of integration: a European banking union with central European bank supervision; a European fiscal union with stricter control mechanisms over national budgets and the development of our own European financing capacity; a European economic union, involving a greater degree of joint decision-making on economic, tax, and social policy and finally a political union."

Jose Manuel Barroso - Former President of the European Commission and Former Prime Minister of Portugal

    "The time for piecemeal solutions is over. We need to set our minds on global solutions. A greater ambition for Europe. Today we are at a turning point in our history. A moments when, if we do not integrate further, we risk fragmentation."

    "For the euro area to be credible – and this not only the message of the federalists, this is the message of the markets – we need a truly Community approach. We need to really integrate the euro area."

    "For all of this to work, we need more than ever the independent authority of the Commission, to propose and assess the actions that the Member States should take. Governments, let's be frank, cannot do this by themselves. Nor can this be done by negotiations between governments."

    "We should remember that our Europe is a Europe of citizens. As citizens, we all gain through Europe. We gain a European identity and citizenship apart from our national citizenship."

    "We must also be realistic and recognise that, if Europe is to exert its influence fully, if Europe really wants to be a power, we must strengthen the Common Foreign and Security Policy. It must be credible. It must be based on a common security and defence dimension if we are really to count in the world."

    "Certain forms of intergovernmentalism could be the death of the united Europe we wish for."

Jacques Santer - Former Prime Minister of Luxembourg and former Chairman of the European People’s Party

    "We Christian Democrats in the European People’s Party want the European Community to become a United States of Europe."

Romano Prodi - EU Commission President

    “Here in Brussels, a true European government has been born. I have governmental powers. I have executive powers for which there is no other name in the world, whether you like it or not, than government”

Helmut Kohl - Former German Chancellor

    "We want European Union, a United States of Europe."

    "In the next 2 years we will make the process of European integration irreversible. This is a really big battle, but it is worth the fight”

    “The process of Union is like the Rhine flowing into the sea. Anyone who stands in its way is crushed”

Angela Merkel - Chancellor of Germany

    "The ideal of European unification is still today a question of war and peace.”

    "I believe we will come to it step by step. The process of handing over authorities to a unified European department will take 20-30 years."

    “In the European Union we have to come closer to the creation of a European army.”

Joschka Fischer - German Foreign Minister

    “Transforming the European Union into a single state with one army, one constitution and one foreign policy is the critical challenge of the age.”

    “The creation of a single European state bound by one European constitution is the decisive task of our time”

Guy Verhofstadt - Former Prime Minister of Belgium, Leader of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats in the European Parliament (The group the LibDems are in.)

    "We are at a crossroads, are we becoming the UN of Europe or are we becoming the US of Europe?

    "Are we becoming a loose confederation as the Eurosceptics want? With the nation states in the driver seat and without any real European Integration coordination and solidarity. Or we become this federation, this political and economic union that we absolutely need." Video

    The constitution was rejected last year by France and the Netherlands do you think the constitution should be revived or should we start from scratch? "No, no I think that we have to continue the ratification process because that keeps the pressure on the European Institutions and the European leaders to continue European integration." You would disregard the votes in France and the Netherlands? "That is there responsibility." Video

    "That is the real problem colleagues, why there is such a real problem in this crisis because member states are reluctant to transfer new soveriegnty and powers to the European Union and we all know that the only way out of this crisis is a new transfer of powers to the European Union and to the European Insitutions." Video

    "We have now a diplomatic service… but we also need a European army."

    "We need to go forwards to the United States of Europe."

Franco Frattini - Former Italian Foreign Minister

    “It is a necessary objective to have a European army”

Matteo Renzi - Prime Minister of Italy

    "I dream, think and work for the United States of Europe."

Jean-Luc Dehaene, Former Belgian Prime Minister and Vice-President of the EU Convention

    We know that nine out of 10 people will not have read the Constitution and will vote on the basis of what politicians and journalists say. More than that, if the answer is No, the vote will probably have to be done again, because it absolutely has to be Yes. "

Arnold Toynbee - Historical researcher and founding father of the EU

    "We are working discreetly ........ and all the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."

Raymond Barre, former French Prime Minister

    "I have never understood why public opinion about European ideas should be taken into account."

Jean Monnet Founder of the European Movement (One of the EU's 'Founding Fathers')

    "Europe's nations should be guided towards the super state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation."

    "The fusion of economic functions would compel nations to fuse their sovereignty into that of a single European State"