Backwoodsman, I give up trying to talk sense into Jim.

As I have said before he cannot or will not accept the fact that his posts come across as insulting and unpleasant.

He asked me for quotations. I provided them while predicting accurately that he would try to argue that they were not abusive, an argument I don't believe even he would accept in an objective way as some of his comments on song lyrics have demonstrated that he is capable of understanding how language works.

He represents himself as a misunderstood crusader, but for me being a jack in the box toy for provocative right=wing posters to amuse themselves with does not further his cause and puts people off. And the latest post in which he seems to feel himself betrayed by his allies seems to show that sadly, he still doesn't get it.

I never believed for one moment he would stay away, and was not prepared to humour him by asking him to return. Sadly, I am guessing that if Jim stayed away Iains would find another mug on another thread to wind up. Then maybe we might get some more interesting discussion.