I was thinking more of dogs being ill-treated and mis-used, pfr. I don't give a rat's arse about the people - people can decide to own, or not own, a dog, and which dog to have. The dog has no choice, and has to put up with whatever hand fate has dealt it. When I see the dreadful neglect and abuse that some dogs suffer, and the number of perfectly healthy dogs going for re-homing, I despair.