Joe sez: "What if faith, is about living a well-lived life, based on shared values and myths and traditions?"

PFR sez: Well that'll be humanism & moral maturity then...

so all the gods and religion stuff is completely superfluous...

But not superfluous for people who value the "gods and religion stuff."

Why the need to refute something that some people find meaningful, PFR? That gets into Steve's cycle of some people being right and some people being wrong - and being driven by a cycle of feeling obliged to prove the others wrong. I see far more value in valuing diversity of perspectives. I come from a Catholic/Judaeo-Christian tradition, so that's the one that feels authentic to me; but I value being able to explore the questions of the universe from the perspective of a variety of traditions. And I find all of them, including non-religious perspectives, to have value.

Egyptian mythology, for example, is fascinating and colorful, and provides some very valuable insights. Why dismiss it as "superfluous"? "One size fits all," just isn't my size.

-Joe-