Men, it's offensive to have to prove or defend what she said happened. PERIOD.

If the question was truly a request to be helped to understand-- Asked and answered is already beyond the call of duty.

Persisting = being part of the problem women have had to deal with FOR CENTURIES-- which we are not putting up with anymore.

You have asked this in a mixed setting where women exist, not in a men's club where one man may "educate" others out of our earshot.

Just STOP IT.

~Susan