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Thread #165645   Message #3977891
Posted By: Jim Carroll
20-Feb-19 - 03:15 AM
Thread Name: Where Have all the Folkies Gone
Subject: RE: Where Have all the Folkies Gone
You are mistaking what I'm saying Hoot
I was grateful for the singers like Ewan, Peggy, Kevin Mitchell, Paddy Tunney, The Stewart's.... and all the others we were able to book to perform in Liverpool and Manchester, and other places I have lived, but the idea of having a weekly guest, which was what was mentioned as an example of success, was exactly what we wanted to avoid.
The clubs I was involved with had competent and dedicated residents and quite often, workshops aimed at developing new singers and new enthusiasts
The people who gave a kick-start to the revival, from W.M.A., E.F,D.S.S., Topic, Lomax, The BBC project (which in my opinion) provided the raw material, Lloyd, MacColl, Henderson.... all set out to popularise a specific type of music and encourage an understanding of it.

Stringsinger
I'd like to believe you - unfortunately the people seem to have become passive recipients of their culture rather man makers of and participants in it - television (which Lloyd often referred to as 'The Idiot's Lantern' played a large part in that.
When we started to record Irish Travellers in London they still had an active living tradition and were still making and absorbing their own songs - within 18 months (you can almost put a date on it) that had disappeared.
The easy access to portable televisions had done away with the campfire gatherings and pool and the juke-box had replaced the pub singing session
In Ireland, the Dancehalls Act and the disapproval and intervention of the Church first destroyed the Crossroads Dances and later the house dances which the traditional arts relied on for their existence
Jim Carroll