well i don't recollect that big a gulf. the watersons for example got the soul cake song from peter, paul and mary - i recall reading.

The first time I saw Fred Jordan was on a package tour with Bert Jansch and the yetties and the Watersons..

One bloke I should have mentioned, whom I thought was the bees knees at the time was Johnny Handle. Although he did misinform me. He told me that Lord Robens would sort out the English mining industry.

Sorry if I bullied you Jim. It was unintentional.