Steve Shaw said, "Sometimes you just have to be told. Yes you do." and I've said this before - can't remember to whom and in which context, but it is still my stance on disagreements: 'Tain't What You Do (It's The Way That You Do It) - Ella Fitzgerald

The word "you" is aimed generically, and not at anyone specifically in this thread.

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I closed this thread. Threads started to talk about a particular individual are never good, especially when that person isn't even here. It's about who did what wrong. The thread inevitably degenerates into personal battles, and guilt-tripping, which is where this went. --Mod