Jim - for a moment there I thought they were Liverpool footballers, until I googled...

I don't do football, or non British stiff upper lip emotions...
must be the grammar school conditioning in me..

Actually I have qualities and character that would make me a pretty good working class far right winger
[no.. not football..]...

.. just shows the diffence good parenting, edcation, and social factors make to a persons adult outcome..
[nature v nurture and all that...]

Oh well.. ukips loss is your gain...