Calling other people's children or grandchildren brats is a very good way to rub people up the wrong way, John. Was that your intention? I will not get into a long winded argument on this so will just say that you do not know the vast number of children and grandchildren of those on Mudcat and I believe that labelling those you know nothing about brats is one of the most vacuous acts I have witnessed in a long time. I thought better of you. Call the parents by all means but not those innocent of whatever damage you feel they have inflicted on you.