The one similarity I see is the sub personnel's refusal to put themselves in danger to help rescue the survivors. Apparently they would have taken on water, and that is why they didn't help. However, I think they should have, in that it was a) their bloody fault, accident or no, and b) they were military and the victims not, so it was their duty to put themselves in danger in order to effect a rescue, whether it was their fault or not. HOWEVER again, it doesn't seem as if anybody who got off the ship subsequently (ha ha) drowned, it seems more as if the missing never made it off the ship, so it's unclear if their help would have helped, if that makes sense. But my main question is, why are they practising dangerous maneuvers in shipping or fishing lanes? It isn't like we're at war, why not do that kind of drill in the deep ocean where there isn't a CHANCE of doing this kind of thing? I see Amos' point that they could have done everything right and STILL hit this ship, but all that does is strengthen my feel that right in populated waters is the last place to blow ballast. Go scare some whales, why don't they.

I also see from the coverage I've been watching/reading that whether it was civilians or not who pulled the lever isn't why this happened. It reminds me more of when military exercises over populated areas go wrong, and the plane crashes into the school. Do the drill somewhere else, like over the desert.