People setting off to fight on D day, reportedly said we expect jobs when we get back. THe EEC, the international capitalism (with rich folk investing everywhere but Britain) and big bang economics that came in its wake have done for British industry and the jobs.

The Welfare State was what the war heroes voted for when they returned.

I'm sorry you don't see the significance. Europe has gone missing whenever we have been threatened or needed their cooperation ever since.

Whether its been sympathy for the IRA in the Euro Courts, or denying airspace for bombing Gadaffi after the Lockerbie bomb, supplying Galtieri - and a dozen other examples - they always go missing or worse.

If it had been us that needed help this side of the English Channel - the 2nd WW wouldn't have happened. If doing sod all is helping to keep the peace - they're the boys.