That is actually a key quote, Karen (you might have placed it in quote marks for those who haven't read the whole interview). Exactly the kind of thing many of us had assumed when we spent time dissecting Lloyd's edits on the 'Bertsongs' thread a few years back, and here it is in his own words. I notice that he writes of backtracking to some extent from certain more far-fetched claims.

Also interesting to see differences emerging with Ewan MacColl.