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Thread #30878   Message #399778
Posted By: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo
16-Feb-01 - 07:42 PM
Thread Name: BS: Karsk fiasco, US-style
Subject: RE: BS: Karsk fiasco, US-style
Reports I've seen is that the sub was out of the advisory area for sub activities.

FWIW, the sub did an "emergency ascent" where the sub comes popping up, bow way out of the water, and comes down with a big splash (our pale imitation of a whale breaching). Comments that they did a periscope scan should be taken with a grain of salt; they wouldn't have time for much of that. Claiming a periscope scan sounds a bit too much like making up stories to cover up your guilt (anyone remember one of the Diallo cops claim under oath that Diallo held his wallet in a "combat stance"? No one holds their _wallet_ in a combat stance ... an obvious lie to cover for a guilty conscience and culpability).

I wouldn't put it past those folks to have tried to splash the fishing vessel and scare the bejeezuz out of them, just for the jollies of the civvies on board. Kind of like those hot shots in the EA-6 in Italy a while back. Surprising they don't have periscope or sonar records available (say, remember the videotape from the EA-6?. . .).

It is reported that two civilians _were_ at the controls.

While active sonar might have some problems in heavy surface chop, you can't miss the clanging and screw sounds from a fishing boat right in front of you. It would have been screaming in the headphones of the sonar operators. If we can't spot a _fishing vessel_ right in front of our nuclear submarines, there's either criminal incompetence, criminal cover-up, or we have been wasting _billions_ of dollars.

*sheesh*

This stinks to high heaven.

Amos, I think you're reading it wrong. Consider what I said, and rethink it a bit, willya?

Cheers,

-- Arne Langsetmo