Well I suppose its hard for some people to comprehend, but the folk clubs and what we created in them have been a major part of our lives.

And the folk clubs, not just the dickheads on BBC4, are something that enabled and initiated our creativity. Ordinary people - not just the stars of Glastonbury, and the people written about in Froots. Ordinary people.

And the weird experiences and oddballs that these folk clubs inevitably brought to the surface was part of the buzz that meant you didn't sit at home with your parents like the poor sods in the Royle family.