Spot on PFR. I was born in Salford in a 2 up 2 down with no bathroom. When they pulled it down they moved us into a council house and there I stayed until I got married and was lucky enough to buy another 2 up 2 down in Salford. But this one had a bathroom. My Dad, a Polish immigrant, was a painter and decorator and at the times there was no work went labouring. My Mum was a shop girl when they married but gave it up when I was born. I have been lucky enough to do office work all my life, but it always was just paid work and I have therefore always been working class. I have never had any pretentions to be an artist or performer. Just a drone! I have no idea where Al has got the idea that we are all middle class when he is the one who has his own website to sell his services as a musician. What, with that chip on his shoulder and those rose coloured specs it is a wonder he ever gets to any gigs.