By the way, Tim, there's a fantastic Midi file on "Johnny Has Gone for a Soldier," not much as I remember the tune (except for the first line). The whole thing is taken from a banjo lesson tape by D. D. Wyler (?). It's much faster and not nearly so sweet as the song I know, but is more in the fife and drum genre, perhaps. After the "gone for a soldier" lesson, the file closes with an unintroduced "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" which is as fast as but quite different from Earl Scruggs' version. Amazing what clicking on a link sometimes gets you. --seed