Jim, I only mention this for your information, I was pro civil rights, anti/nuclear, and at one point, anti/thatcher, most of the young people of our generation were, but the road being outlined by the likes of Seeger and MacColl headed straight towards a Chinese Russian style totalitarianism which has been roundly rejected by those young people who, as I believe Al is gently reminding us, became the boring old farts of today.....us.