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Thread #166730   Message #4012324
Posted By: Jim Carroll
07-Oct-19 - 06:35 AM
Thread Name: the uk folk revival in 2019
Subject: RE: the uk folk revival in 2019
"One of his followers made up false website about me saying I was a member of some right wing group"
His mod infiltrated this forum and set up a false 'Irish terrorist' facebook account on my behalf
I never use Facebook and didn't realy understand it, but a fellow Mudcatter warned me about it
Interesting days when some of the rabid right showed some initiative, rather than the imagination-free lot we are left with here
"I'm not saying that Tommy Armstrong's stuff, or the blantyre pit explosion aren't considerable works."
More than considerable Al - they are universal and agelessly relevant whereas your pop and C and W come with a sell-by date and are constantly being replaced
I here none of the old C and W stuff I cut my teeth on in my youth, yet I thought it would last forever then
Society may change but the hopes and aspirations that gave rise to folk songs never do   
I'm using a quite from an Irish traveller in a talk I'm giving in Belfast in a couple of weeks regarding his attitude to the centuries old Ballad, 'What Put the Blood'
Jim Carroll

Love of a good story was certainly a part of the survival of ballads, but the first Traveller we met, Pop’s Johnny Connors, from Wexford, gave us a deeper insight
One of the earliest songs we got from him he called ‘The Ballad of Cain and Abel’; not only did he link it to the Biblical legend, but he used it to describe how he believed Travellers first took to the road,
I’d say the song, myself, goes back to.... depicts Cain and Abel in the Bible and where Our Lord said to Cain.... I think this is where the Travellers Curse come from too, because Our Lord says to Cain, “Cain”, says Our Lord, “you have slain your brother, and for this”, says Our Lord, says he, “and for this, be a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth”.
“Not so Lord” says he, “this punishment is too severe, and whoever finds me”, says he, “will slay me, “says he “or harass me”.
“Not so”, says Our Lord, says he, “whoever finds Cain and punishes or slains (sic) Cain, I will punish them sevenfold”.

And I think this is where the Travellers curse come from.
Jim