Allan you are of course right about Northumbria. Perhaps I was being lazy, I was of course not claiming that the modern county of Northumberland dated back to the time of the Angles or the original British. I was using the term loosely to refer to an area of the country. I was on the island of Lindisfarne recently, the place where the first Viking attack is supposed to have taken place (in 793). I have been reading a couple of books about the Anglo Saxons which go through the complicated history of kingdoms in those times.