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Thread #168   Message #4015479
Posted By: GUEST
26-Oct-19 - 07:26 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: a Breton song recorded by Alan Stivell
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: a Breton song recorded by Alan Stivell
Interesting to read some of the comments her...At the time of the Olympia, "Stivell could barely pronounce Breton lyrics..." I don't know where this comes from but it is worth noticing that Stivell was born in 1944 and consequently at a time when Breton language was not taught at all at school. Right after the second world war, on the basis that some folks among the Breton organizations had collaborated with the Nazis, anything connected with Breton or Celtic culture was seen as suspicious. Like many others, Stivell had to make the effort of learning Breton when he was older, through various courses and teaching books. In 1972,the breton he would sing was the result of this complex situation. Also, it has to be known that Breton language was not a single entity, but a collection of dialects which could be very different from one region to another: people who would speak "Vannetais" (from the Vannes area) would not always understand an other Breton person from say, the Tregor area. Further more, many of the folks who would speak Breton at the time of Stivell's youth would have learned it from the family, not in a rational way throught scholl and teachers. Saying that Stivell was barely able to pronounce Breton in 1972 seems to me grossly unfair. The Breton which is now taught in schools like "Diwan" in Brittany is a language which tries to be a amalgam of the various aspects of the language spoken through the country. To sum up, it is a bit of a reconstruct Breton, and consequently it would sometimes sound odd to a person of 70 who has been used to a a language taught by ears when he/she was a young person. Stivell explains that sometimes he would sing a song with the accent of a particular region, and the next one with another accent. and regarding the Gaelic language, he never said he would sing in Gaelic with a perfect accent and pronounce,since Gaelic is notoriously complex to learn.