I'm with Amos on this. Now there are a lot of hymns, Christian and other, that are fantastically enjoyable songs; but if we are going to agonise over wether or not to expose children to songs about foxhunting because our agricultural systems have evolved to a point where this is no longer an survival issue for the country worker, and our belief system to the point where we can appreciate that we have responsibilities for the well being of other living creatures and that they were not put on this earth by some god or other for our exploitation; surely it is far more important to consider the underlying concepts behaind the majority of hymns.

Now I'm not trying to tell anyone what they should or should not believe, nor what they should or should not sing, but to suggest that because children enjoy what they experience and are 'positive' about it misses the point entirely. We could all bring to mind regimes and belief systems which have cynically exploited the ability to mould the minds of children from the Jesuits to the various factions currently using children as assault troops in central Africa.

Having said all that Crimmond, Cwm Rhonnda, and the Evening hymn and last post played as part of Sunset can all bring a lump to my throat in the right conditions.

Pete M