Jim I see you are in a combative aggressive mood again. You do yourself and the discussion no favours

You have no current first hand knowledge of the UK folk scene - many of the rest of us do. Nobody is saying it is perfect but to describe it as being like the aftermath of War of the World's is ridiculous hype.

I know you want us all to consider 'folk' as being the same as you consider it to be but that isn't going to happen. Those of us, like me, who have been going to folk clubs,festivals, singarounds and music sessions for over 40 years hearing largely the same type of music consider the 'folk scene' to be that scene we have been part of - not just the traditional song scene. If I had wanted this thread just to be about the places traditional songs are performed I would have titled it more specifically.

Folk to us means the wonderful music we have listened to for the last decades. Your constant attempt to change our perceptions isn't going to work. It is only going to disrupt the discussion