The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #166900 Message #4021986
Posted By: Bill D
02-Dec-19 - 05:58 PM
Thread Name: BS: in the beginning and now
Subject: RE: BS: in the beginning and now
I do not like BS... and you are correct that I don't like hearing or reading it. The question is what to do.. and when.
BS from some quarters comes with blinders on which makes responding useless--except for occasional addition of clarification and facts for any who 'might' be confused. Direct arguing with those wearing blinders is mostly useless (like the joke about trying to teach a pig to sing).
Conspiracy theories are especially awkward to deal with because they usually/often include.. and rely on... circular arguments about why we can't find the 'truth'. **(There was a cast, complex set of evil planning to blow up building on 9/11.. apart from Saudis and airliners! Why can't we prove it?.. Why because experts at high levels have hidden the evidence!)** Likewise the 100 MPG carburetor. The oil companies didn't want it, so the specs were hidden!.
Resident Trump may not know the formal names for bad rhetoric that I studied, but he has all the instincts for deploying it.
Mudcat has been a real boon to my continued education, as I have 20 years of examples of all levels of debate to compare & use.
Some may remember this bit from a number of years ago... I saved it as a paradigm of jaw-dropping BS.. and I 'think' it was totally sincere..but *shrug*
"I've told you before, the Bible is the ultimate authority. If I didn't appeal to it to prove itself, then it wouldn't be. Thus, it is not circular reasoning"
No form of argument can combat that.
I have no idea how long I will follow Mudcat... Max says he'll keep IT going, but what will keep ME going?
Y'all take care.