well I think I'm talking to myself.. You don't get it. You're angry and dismissive of people like Iains and myself.

Your trust has been abused big time. The revelations coming out today about what's been going on expose Momentum as a body completely disinterested in the fate of the poor people of England. Their own party was explaining to them what was going on on the doorsteps two years ago - and they gave not a shit. THey wanted control of the party - even if it meant total electoral failure.

After eight years of austerity and tory party wrangling, they would have pissed rings round the tories without Corbyn and Momentum. Two years later, people had it sussed that Corbyn was part of the problem - not the solution.
Not the people on this forum - but most people.

And Iains I'm sorry I don't agree with you - no one richly deserves being pissed about and misled. No one's won.