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Thread #166861   Message #4024043
Posted By: DMcG
16-Dec-19 - 07:17 AM
Thread Name: BS: UK General election December 12 2019
Subject: RE: BS: UK General election December 12 2019
How does that speech end, Ians?

Ah yes,

That England that was wont to conquer others
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.

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We are where we are. For me, this conquest is not 'Brexit', but a willingness to adopt a leader who avoids scrutiny and whose manifesto is so light. But, as I indicated, it seems possible to me we follow a BRINO deal in the end. Do not forget that Johnson is famed for writing those two articles before the referendum. Even if he went for Leave in the end, that implies he saw some positives in our relationship with Europe, unlike some of the hardest ERG who seem it think it is all bad almost tautologically. It may stretch me a bit, but I am not without hope.

The 'Remain' side need to recalibrate. I and other sare convinced that any form of Leave is worse than Remaining. I still think that, but it no longer the question. The focus now must be - as to be honest it should have been from the referendum onwards - how to get the best Leave deal.