Mousethief, I think John P has covered most of the bases for me. I used "judgmental" because that's exactly what your attitude is. To me it's breathtaking that you can't see it.

What in what I said is judgmental? Please be specific. Just saying "it's breathtaking you can't see it" isn't teribly helpful, and looks like a dodge. What exactly did I say that was judgmental?

I used "homophobic" in the sense that most people do these days. What I meant by it was "anti-homosexual" or "anti-same-sex sex" - something you are against because (for reasons you can't explain) it offends your God. You're entitled to your prejudice, but don't blame it on your religion.

When did I say I was against same sex sex? When did I say it "offended my God"? You are putting words in my mouth.

What I said was that according to the teachings of my church, homosexuals are expected to remain celibate. I went on to say that I know lots of gays who are wonderful people and a whole hell of a lot "like folks." If this is prejudice and judgmentalism, you will have to do a little more than the handwaving you've done so far to explain why.

I didn't invent this religion. I inherited it from the people who went before me. If you want it to be changed, maybe you should join it and try to change it. I don't feel inclined to try to change it, and for that, apparently, you are calling me homophobic and judgmental and prejudiced.

So far all the judgmentalism and prejudice has come from your side of this debate. Hmmm.