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Thread #167191   Message #4029550
Posted By: DMcG
22-Jan-20 - 03:31 AM
Thread Name: BS: UK politics
Subject: RE: BS: UK politics
Jess Phillips realises folly of speaking truth to out-of-power

Quite a good article, I think. It takes the same stance I and BWM are taking about the pointlessness of determinedly standing for things if you can't get elected. For example he suggest Jess's internal monologue might include:


She was too centrist. Too obsessed with trying to get Labour back into power rather than preserving its ideological purity. The very idea that Labour might have to change! Didn’t she know it was the voters who needed to change? How could she have been so stupid as to fail to understand that the best way to help the poorest members of society was to remain in permanent opposition?


So, for example, when Steve says "[Nandy's] voting record on brexit makes her a Tory-lite", he misses that her voting record could be one of the things in her favour with the 'Red wall' areas, since it matches theirs. Ditto the 'Tory-lite' to some extent. These people did vote Tory and the party needs to face up to that. Iains is right when he says the Labour party needs to regain the trust of the voters. Without that, the party will never get elected. I am not so convinced about how long it will take though: that depends on how the current Parliament plays out as much as anything.