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Thread #167340   Message #4037276
Posted By: Jim Carroll
03-Mar-20 - 08:28 AM
Thread Name: Mediation and its definition in folk music
Subject: RE: Mediation and its definition in folk music
"I think it is both mediation and comment on the mediation of traditional sources by singers."
Thar depends entirely on whether peoples estimation of folk song is based on personal taste - it shouldn't be and, in my experience seldom is
If there are no specific examples produced the suggestion remains no more than a "what if"
Folk song collectors decide to collect from people who know folk songs - what else should we do ?
We'v been through the difference between folk song collectors, musicologists and social historians
I think Howard is sport on - we used to talk about collecting from 'traditional singers' - then it was argued that the revival could lay claim to having its own traditions
'Source singers' is ok with me, but the way things are deteriorating, I expect to have to fight to hang onto that particular musical chair in the not-to-distant future - which is why I'm quite happy to cling onto a century's research and usage
Repetition and continuity is only a small part of what makes up traditional song

"'practised' source singers who handle a 'break' in their vocal range"
Most of our source singers were old and way passed their prime - we would have lost a hell of a lot of songs if collectors in any way 'prioritised'
An extremely rare Irish and treasured version of 'Well sold the Cow' was recorded from a Clare singer dying of throat cancer - he had a great deal of trouble producing tune, never mind handling a break in his vocal range'
I've never been in the position where I've had to 'leave out' any singer, no matter what they sing - it tends to leave you with a bit of a reputation
I'll tell you the story of recording light opera from the 'bare-fist fighter' Donegal Traveller sometime
Jim