Pfr doesn't agree with you, BWM, and, much as I wouldn't adopt his approach myself, he's entitled to do what he does and he's fairly skilful at it. Jim doesn't agree either, and that's a tough nut for some of us who generally share Jim's politics and outlook and who admire his musical knowledge but who can see the effect he has on the troll. On top of all that, we are at the end of the day a bunch of flawed and passionate human beings. The three US moderators love to see the struggle we have with him, because they don't like us Brits one little bit and, to them, their enemy's enemy is their friend. They showed that they have it in their power to get shut of trolls. They got shut of Teribus, who was a lot less obnoxious than Iains, and they got rid of akenaton because he offended the feminist tendency here. You yourself engaged Iains for quite a while, even thinking that he was actually Teribus reincarnated. Yeah, we're human and we do things that a Mr Spock wouldn't have done. But I rather like being a flawed human. And on any other website I've been on, the mods would have sacked Iains years ago. I'm not going to take the blame for his bad behaviour. In effect, we don't have moderation here. And in criticising us, you're falling into the same victim-blaming trap that the mods so relish. Respect.