PFR... you said:
"... What I think might be a difference between us,
is that when I was a student, we were taught not to just take an individual or institution's arguments in isolation, at face value, on neutral terms; but to actively analyse the core bias and motives of the people communicating them..

Then address the people behind their smokescreens, with clear focus..

Such was the trend in British higher education I experienced in that era, which is to a large extent still ingrained in my character & intelligence now... "

I must say, I am curious who 'taught' that form of analysis and whether it was represented as classical moral philosophy or was merely the interpretation by some particular individual(s). Whichever, it explains a lot. It feels to me like a charter to do battle... and if those who you analyze and find wanting were taught the same basic concept, it is a formula for incessant bickering.

   Myself... I was a philosophy major with 130+ hours of courses, and for 2 years a graduate teaching fellow. I have background in metaphysics, phenomenology, logic, Phil. of Science, 'moral' philosophy such as Kant's "Fundamental Principles of the Metaphysics of Morals" and various bits of Aristotle's treatises.
Nowhere was I 'taught' to call into question the character and biases of those I disagreed with. We had long discussions on the merits and premises of each other's opinions, but seldom did I ever see progress if insults and character were inserted.
   I simply cannot fathom how the background you tout can solve anything. It gives ANYONE the excuse to ... to.. ummmm come to an internet forum and not only disagree with others, but to impugn their motives and character... and when I see someone say "It's OBVIOUS that you are a ****", I can only shake my head & shrug.
Various members want other members censure or censored or 'sent off' based on, evidently, the sort of 'moral philosophy' you say was part of British Higher Education back then. I'm not sure if any of the other 'concerned members' in recent months claim the same basis, but superficially, it looks that way... and saying THAT.. by me.. strays way too close to the attitude I decry!

Everyone knows.... it cannot go on like this. Something's got to give....

ummm Steve Shaw.. I am still considering how to approach your comments, as they include both sensible analysis and personal grievances and premises similar to what PFR suggested. If this thread persists, I'll see if I can sort thru them. I have a lot of other things on my plate right now.

And keberoxu..*blush* thanks for the vote of confidence..