I was looking forward to a discussion on Bert but have decided not to bother as I can see no future in any serious discussion on any serious subject in the future due to a message recieved by another member from a moderator reading:

"Bonzo
Just recieved thos message from another member regarding teh Bert lloyd thread
Thought you should know

"You choose thread topic that have been occasions for battle before.
Lloyd's singing, like MacColl's, is a matter of taste. But idiots like
Jim Carroll get all peeved when people criticize them, and that's what
you're looking for. You are on the list of troublemakers. If you keep
it up, we'll bring you down."
Jim