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Thread #167867   Message #4054120
Posted By: GUEST,Nick Dow
21-May-20 - 05:23 AM
Thread Name: Hope for folk music - Jon Doran!
Subject: RE: Hope for folk music - Jon Doran!
Since my name has been mentioned a few times I thought I would weigh in briefly.
When you are a young Folk enthusiast, you take your influences from what is available. In my day it was what I heard in my local Folk Club, followed by what I could afford to buy in Dobells' Jazz and Blues shop (which had a superb Folk section). Then I tried to copy what I had heard, and eventually found I couldn't do it and came to my own style.
Now I realise this is more or less what has been said already, some kinder than others in this thread, however I think we should view Jon Doran as work in progress. He will hopefully find his own way. It is easier in this day and age to find good recordings to hear.
The big problem is to get past the massive wall of 'I WANT TO PLAY LIKE THAT!!! I know I had to climb it myself. There were a few people who gave me a foot up that wall, Ewan McColl and his magnificent Song Carrier programmes, were a lightbulb moment, and re-assessing the work of my elders and betters, and reading and listening.
As I draw my pension I can say that I cannot listen to Nic Jones any more. Why? His style is so unique that it's almost like a death sentence to the song. I can listen to Cyril Tawney, Burl Ives (yes there is a lot to learn!) and MWR.
So lets be kind to Jon Doran. Either he will get past the sound to the song or he won't. Me-I'm optimistic, and I never deliberately give offence to anyone least of all fellow music makers. I was given a version of The 'Dark Eyed Gypsy' recorded by the Blackpool Gypsies from Bartley Gorman, Tyson Fury's great Grandfather. Same tune and some verses. I probably would never have found the singers I have recorded if it were not for my local Folk Club, those who sang in it, and being guided in the direction of Lloyd, McColl, and yes Jim Carroll. Lets all keep safe, positive and singing.
Nick Dow