Just to enlarge on that a bit, Dick, the singing of carols at Christmas and hymns at other times, as well as Songs Of Praise on the telly and Choral Evensong every day on the wireless, not to speak of the Sunday Service as I'm having my Sunday morning cup o'char in bed, are all accepted as rather benign impositions on us, whether we're Muslims, Hindus, Christians, atheists or none of the above. But just because we all shrug and smile indulgently at these things doesn't mean that they are actually benign. They are not. Historically, religion has been hand in glove with bigotry from all sides and has excused antisemitism, the Ayatollah, the Jewish State, Naziism, repression of minorities, Franco (hey, a daily communicant), imperialism, warmongering and the slave trade. "It's all right to take pubs over with carol-singing cos it's traditional" is not an argument for saying that it's the right thing to happen. Sure, the landlord must decide and devil take the naysayers, etc. That's democracy. But that doesn't justify it. Personally, even though I'm an unreconstructed atheist of the worst Dawkinsesque kind, I'm not going to take offence over the baby Jaysus nonsense. We've had too much officious taking of offence in this thread and not enough acceptance of the fact that we can take things in our stride and, as decent human beings, can work through good ways of tackling relatively minor issues such as naughty words in a small minority of folk songs. Hey, we folkies aren't as important as we think we are, by the way!