"but will ONE of you (at least) be an intelligent adult and try to walk away from the personal fighting? Please"
Sory Jeri - you are mistaking argument on what some of us consider important as "personal fighting" - it isn't
Your power to close down threads gives you an unfair advantage
Pat and I worked with Travellers for over thirty years and saw the effects racism had on probably the most persecuted ethnic group close up - from notices in pub and shop windows saying the wouldn't serve Travellers to dawn raids on halting sights to 'fishing trips' by groups of police looking se if they could find stolen goods
Physical assaults, even fire bombings were not uncommon in urban settings
If you think wanting to talk about our singers and the songs songs they gave us "personal", we're working from different dictionaries
If you want an anodyne thread where the objective is to be nice to each other, I've got far more important things to be getting on with
Stay safe
Jim