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Thread #167690   Message #4064639
Posted By: Backwoodsman
17-Jul-20 - 04:28 PM
Thread Name: BS: UK thread, Politics and political
Subject: RE: BS: UK thread, Politics and political
Jim, for the love of God, how many fucking times do I have to say it before you get it through your head?

1) I’m sick to death of the succession of Conservative governments we’ve had for the past ten years, and the damage they have inflicted on this country, especially on the most vulnerable members of society.

2) I want a Labour government.

3) I believe that any Labour government is better than any Conservative government, irrespective of leader.

4) To use your words, “Something has to change”. The Labour Party is the only party capable of bringing change IMHO, but that can’t happen unless and until it achieves a majority in a GE. In opposition, and with an 81-seat deficit, it is impotent.

4) I’m not a party member, I have no vote in party leadership elections but, like everyone I guess, I have personal preferences.

5) I didn’t want Corbyn as leader but, when he was democratically elected by the party membership, I gave him the respect he deserved in that position, spoke in support of him, and voted for my Labour candidate at the 2019 GE. My doubts about Corbyn’s suitability for the position of leader were validated by the unmitigated disaster of the election - the Labour Party under Corbyn was unelectable.

6) I didn’t want Starmer as leader, my preference came third in the election but, Starmer having been democratically elected by the party membership, I give him the respect he deserves in that position, I speak in support of him, and I will vote for my Labour candidate in the next GE, whenever that may be. It’s an old-fashioned concept called ‘Loyalty’, and I live in hope that he will be able to make the party electable once again..

7) it seems to me that the very people who screamed blue-murder about the treachery and back-stabbing that went on against Corbyn are the self-same ones who are now undermining and displaying similar treachery against Starmer. Treachery is treachery, no matter which side the perpetrator of that treachery is on. Think on that.

8) In his first period as leader, Starmer has achieved something that Corbyn never could - he has outwitted and out-debated the Conservative leader at PMQs, and clearly demonstrated that arm-waving, big words, and bluster are all Johnson’s got. Starmer has four more years to organise, formulate policies, and devise a a strategy to neutralise the Tory Propaganda and Smear Campaigns that will undoubtedly increase in intensity the closer we get to an election. I’m prepared to give him the chance to do that.

9) To bring about change, the Labour Party has to be electable. Under Corbyn, for whatever reasons, it was unelectable. I hope that under the new leader it will become electable once more.

Now that’s your lot. Instead of firing off questions at all and sundry and demanding that they explain themselves, let’s hear your brilliant master-plan for creating a successful Socialist State in the UK.