"The kick-off point is that some here are happy with Starmer and think he's the only way forward for us to have any chance of a future victory "

Who's that then...???
I don't recall anyone here saying they think much of Starmer's character,
or are impressed by Labour voting him as leader...

At best someone's only said he's a good performer at PM's question sessions..
That's as much as I remember anyone having anything positive to say about him...

Jim has just completely gone of on one,
based only on his own distorted misconstrued imaginings of what he thinks any of said..

Have you actually been properly reading this thread,
before you step in here
like a dozy chummy village bobby lecturing naughty lads on their wayward behaviour...

I've cut Jim more slack, out of respect,
than I ever would for anyone else..
But there is a limit to our patience with how he is currently behaving at us...

Are you really trying to help,
or throw petrol on the fire like donuel is...!!!???