Steve: Thanks for pointing out what I should have seen since it was right in front of me.

My comment of course was based on the last thread sadly ended. I owe the OP an answer on the issue. Interested as I am in the subject, U.K. politics is pretty intricate in ways I don't really know. But, I did have a reaction to the way pfr posed his/her interest. Having a Jewish blood link. I'd like to think that in the U.S. we don't think in those terms. Simple interest should be enough.

But a lot can be learned about ourselves and sidestepping the supposed topic of antisemitism and observing that between the U.K. and U.S. we have differences in the way we think that transcend our labels. I've met plenty of European Christians and they are not like U.S. Christians. Same goes for Jews. I'll never forget meeting a Cockney Jew in Auckland. Not like any American Jews I knew. I'm pretty sure the Irish I knew in Boston were not like the Irish in Ireland. They told me as much.

So- It may be very well that Labour has been diverted by enemies inside and outside with 'antisemitism' being a very big stalking horse. The BBC article linked by PFR calls that into question (or maybe indicates that the strategy was highly successful), but this is where my ignorance keeps me from going beyond that. In the UK thread now closed there was continual reference to the Israel Lobby which means to me that indeed there is a problem and it is either being suppressed or non-addressed. My analogy would be that it's a festering bullet in a wound that has to be removed whatsoever the pain.

It's an interesting subject which 'catters have addressed and readdressed and beyond the usual frustrations I hope they don't give up. When I read you guys whether or not I agree, I end up interested and maybe understanding a bit more better. I'm a big believer that we get out of the morass working from the bottom 80% and maybe getting a little help from those above with a lot of mistrust on both sides. But we have to trust somebody some time.