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Thread #49018   Message #4087229
Posted By: Mrrzy
09-Jan-21 - 10:45 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: For the Godless March on Washington
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: For the Godless March on Washington
Hey old friend, long time no see! [I talk to threads, not just to myself.]

Shocked, shocked that march was so long ago.

Answering Denise from that long ago:

Still, do you really think you have the right to take all references to God out of all popular music, poetry, etc.? Why is your right bigger than the rights of the people who put it there in the first place? You certainly have the right to control your own input to society, but not everyone's--and certainly not the right to reach backwards and change historical works...

Boy does *that* comment entirely and completely miss the point.

We are only trying to get god stuff out of the USGubmint, where it wasn't originally, not out of the universe.

No child in public school should have to recite a pledge into which under god was added *specifically to keep atheists* out. Take those 2 words back out of the pledge. Or don't *have* the pledge at all.

No child in public school should have to spend their school days walking under signs saying In god we trust. Put E pluribus unum back up, if you want the national motto on your school walls.

No child in public schools should have to sing god songs, and especially not *only xian hymns*, in chorus or music class.

All of the above were inflicted not only on my atheist kids. There were jewish, moslem, wiccan, and polytheistic families sending their kids to public schools in my theoretically oh-so-progressive Charlottesville.

Where, I might add, the AP history high school text said, in so many words, that while islam and judaism were religions, the new testament was history. I mean really.

Nobody, adult or child, should have to pay private or public debts with currency claiming respect for any deity in a secular society. Put e pluribus unum on the money if you want a motto there.

And in response to another comment:

I like singing the old songs with new words way more than having to write my own. My rendition of PP&M's The Magi into something secular and gender-free has been well-received, for example.

There is a great deal of linguistic evidence that repurposing old terms works much better than inventing new ones. Look at the evolution of You, or They, to mean a singular in addition to a plural. None of the invented new pronouns worked.