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Thread #169142   Message #4087461
Posted By: GUEST,henryp
11-Jan-21 - 03:24 AM
Thread Name: Nursery Rhyme Origins
Subject: RE: Nursery Rhyme Origins
Pagan Carols Restored: Volume 1 Ed, Norman Iles 1971
Pagan Carols Restored: v. 2. by Norman Iles Dec 1976

Nursery Rhymes Restored to Their Adult Originals: v. 1 Paperback – 1 Dec. 1980 by Norman Iles (Editor)
The Resurrection of Cock Robin. The Nursery Rhymes Restored to Their Originals, Vol 2. by Norman Iles 1 Jan 1984

Norman Iles - Who Really Killed Cock Robin? Nursery Rhymes and Carols restored to their Original Meanings (Robert Hale 1986)

"Nursery rhymes and carols are part of folk art, and are a vital link with a past era. They are sometimes charming, but more often nonsensical; pious but too simple. Why are the 'traditional' and familiar versions of our best-loved rhymes and carols frequently quite meaningless? In this thoughtful and provocative book, Norman Iles shows that when adult rhymes were too outspoken, they were censored into childishness. Traditional carols which betrayed their pagan origins were converted into useful vehicles for the Christian messages of the medieval church. From the author's careful work of reconstruction, the original messages can be discovered that Baa, Baa, Black Sheep is a promiscuous girl, an adult black sheep; Holly and Ivy are trees of man and woman - their carol describes an impassioned rivalry and recalls the importance of fertility symbols in pagan thought. Who Really Killed Cock Robin? offers a fascinating new light on our social, sexual and religious history and provides truly original material for the practical celebration of our pagan past."