Guest 1979 - I suppose a moosehran would be even deeper ! Now, if ye could make them out of seals, it might help the cod and salmon a bit. Get GBS to promote it and you're on the way ! Of course, there'd have to be a disclaimer saying that no cute little white ones were used, just the big nasty ones. By the way, we're getting little info about The Irish Descendants. Will D'Arcy and Con ever play together again ? Any other news on them ?gnu