Thank you for at least giving us something to get hold of, Joe, unlike the guy who started the thread. Kevin, I'm not going to do private wars, but this chap has a habit of being unable to accept any criticisms of his half-assed and obscurantist posts without having a dig. A man with big problems. Anyway, I'll be having a look at Georgia tomorrow, thanks to Joe's interesting post, and only that. And kudos to those Mudcatters who take on the issues of the world below the line. We often get it wrong but "silent" we are not. And we can't do everything. Why the hell should we?