I viewed the introduction to 'UFOs Friend, Foe or Fantasy' on MSNBC on 'The Beat with Ari Melber' 3 days ago. His guests were former CIA director Brennon and astronomer Dyson. The similarities of attitudes is of course my opinion but I enjoy the discourse of burdon of proof which is also fundamental in the philosophy of LAW.
The show was a fair and interesting discussion, especially Brennon.