I know what you are saying, John, but by your own token, Steve did not say that you were telling the left to shut up and go away! That aside, what is your recommendation for unity in the Labour party? Are you suggesting that we of the left wing give up our principles and indulge in a bit of right wing populism just to win elections? That is what it sounds like but maybe I am interpreting what you are saying incorrectly. Trouble is, if we do that, as per the article you linked the other day, populism is ultimately doomed to failure. Surely we would be best placed to win elections if we offered a real alternative to the Tories and the way the Labour party is currently being managed, that just is not going to happen :-(