Hi Pat, I will make a video for it and link when I get a chance (I'll credit all parties, record company publishers etc. so Youtube can link it to owners ( It's usually ok on a small scale as long as no copyright owning shareholder objects and no outside claims are made). It wasn't so much a contact for John Croall, I just wanted to know who he was/is? Just to fill in the biographical gap. Then who was Mike? Ah well we've solved one out of the three. Thanks for your help. If you can send me a picture of Mike John and Sandy in the next week, I'll include it in the video. My e-mail is above.