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Thread #168430   Message #4121191
Posted By: DMcG
28-Sep-21 - 11:28 AM
Thread Name: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
Yes, I've subscribed to that view for a long time. Are you starting to agree with it? Or do you just think that it's a false correllation?
Well, I am not *starting* to subscribe to it, because it is a concern I have had for a long time. I would much prefer if on everything except the most minor matters the unions balloted their members and split the block vote in line with the ballot result. It is one of the problems with the way the party is organised. That is not how it is set up, however, and I am aware it would be difficult because the exact question to ballot on is not known until conference. So it would probably need a two-stage voting system, which is cumbersome.

All party organisations have problems. Do you want me to list some of those of other parties too?

But you also need to distinguish between principles and structure, and for all the flaws in the structure, the principles of the more centrist Labour party match mine more closely than other parties. Not 100%, of course, and other parties have positions on some topics I might prefer. I have been pro PR since before I joined Charter '88 when it was first formed, for example.

(And when I say 'more central' I am aware that judged by European standards Corbyn was far more centrist than the Tory press would have us believe.)