you can download paltalk at www.paltak.com

It only takes a little bit, then when you go open the program, click on Groups, look for the Mudcat Song Circle and click on it. It will not show unless someone has hte room open and you have the box ticked beside "Show Adult Groups."

The other rooms, when they are open, ar Mudcat Snug, password "dt" and Mudcat Concert, password "marmot."

kat