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Thread #170121   Message #4142831
Posted By: Bill D
29-May-22 - 07:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: Another shooting in US
Subject: RE: BS: Another shooting in US
"...Americans are raised with the sincerely held belief that violence is a *reasonable* response to insult or discomfort."

**SOME** Americans are raised in situations where that is common. It is not a regular thing. One problem is that it is not considered PC to note the cultural groups where such attitudes are prevalent. (No, they are not all 'racial', but that is one reason that proposed solutions are phrased a bit ambiguously...especially in Congress.)

I posted this on Facebook to illustrate what any attempts to deal with guns is up against..

"Most people with already set opinions forget what 'militia' meant when the 2nd Amendment was written. The new govt. had no standing army.. but the British had a history of organized militias, so the word was useful in referring to 'citizens' coming together quickly and performing temporary duty. These were expected to have their own, non-standard long guns, as there was little or no armory to hand out weapons.
From this site:https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-ii/interps/99
"The onset of war does not always allow time to raise and train an army, and the Revolutionary War showed that militia forces could not be relied on for national defense. The Constitutional Convention therefore decided that the federal government should have almost unfettered authority to establish peacetime standing armies and to regulate the militia."
The framers and authors of the 2nd amendment could not conceive of standardized weapons and ammunition, much less the advanced stuff of today. It wasn't until the era just before and during the Civil War that creation of standardized guns began. Everyone knows they would not have phrase it in a way that was clear then, but ambiguous today..... but those who covet their guns simply will NOT admit this, as it might lead to an amendment that limited what kinds of weapons were legal, when and by whom.
I am quite aware that the legal situation is now circular, as the courts, the Gerrymandered states, the rules for creating and approving a new amendment- plus the absurdity of the Electoral College will hamstring attempts for the foreseeable future..... and then there are several hundred million guns ...legal and illegal already out there."