As the guilty party at the start of this derailment of the thread:

* I love this country, but I don't need to shout it from the rooftops.

* I detest people who shout "love of country" from the rooftops as cover for trashing it.

Now, can we *please* get back to badmouthing politicians rather than each other? before this thread gets smothered in flame retardant. We must hang together, lest we all hang separately, an' all that.